Post by Scruffy Brooky on Dec 23, 2010 13:53:05 GMT
Anyone who has ever used a sigil, has some appreciation of what you have termed magical art, albeit often less complex than the example you have given.
Some of the pre-Raphaelite's you posted I really like a lot, which took me by surprise a little. Pagan art in this sense was not something I had previously considered, less still explored.
The contemporary fantasy stuff, certainly of the type you included isn't really my thing. I am not even convinced that it is particularly Pagan. Sure there are plenty of pentacles, (totem?) animals, moons etc. but they concentrate solely on the dark half of the day and of the year. This is not representative of the path of most Pagan's who I have had the pleasure of meeting. To me these images have more to do with the goth movement and often erotica than being particularly Pagan. I know there are plenty who would disagree.
"The thing I like best about you is that we can argue all evening and still end the night as friends."
Post by sacredspiraldoula on Dec 24, 2010 0:01:27 GMT
I love Pre-Raphaelite art.. the rich colours and intricate detail - you could stand forever in front of one of those paintings! my favorite is the Lady of Shalott.. by John Waterhouse :-) I remember seeing it for the first time at the Tate... beautiful!, (even though it was really high up on the wall!) I just couldn't stop looking at it - it took my breath away! I also love Klimt and Alphonse Mucha... beautiful! I hadn't actually given any thought to any of the paintings being specifically 'pagan' before.. and indeed some of the Pre-Raphaelite stuff is based on scenes from the bible.. some of it is seriously not to my taste however..
Post by sacredspiraldoula on Dec 24, 2010 0:22:19 GMT
Having said all this - on reflection, one of my favorite pictures is a Klimt.. the three ages of woman - a very significant image for me indeed. I have no idea how to put the picture on here I'm afraid - technology has got the better of me!
Post by sacredspiraldoula on Dec 24, 2010 12:15:32 GMT
Thanks for the info Sruffy Brooky! I shall have a go sometime
Robur, thank you for posting the pictures.. the three ages of women is one that you usually only see the reduced version of as the view of a naked sexually unattractive old woman is not one mainstream society wants to see.. a shame as it completes the picture which otherwise is just a 'pretty' picture of mother and child. The fact that the cut picture is the acceptable one demonstrates how older, wiser, experienced, nurturing, protecting women who once were revered as the medicine women, the healers, the midwives, the grandmothers.. are now considered to be irrelevant and useless.. no wonder many young women and mothers are cut off from their potential.. their rites of passage.. their 'mysteries'.. :-(
There is some very skilled and beautifully painted art above and I find this to be a good post. Makes me happy. The artist I would like to pop in is Andy Goldsworthy. I don't believe he is pagan or claims his art to be. But as he works, as far as I understand, solely with natural materials and mainly in nature, I feel his sculptures are very much within the line of this thread. He is one of my favourite artists and one of the things I love most about him is that alot of his art has a shelf life, dictated by the natural world. I am sorry I haven't posted any art of his here, this is because I would advise doing an image search on google to get the chance to really appriecaite his work! He is genius!!!!!
I don't think Edward Burne Jones is usually classed as a Pre-Raphaelite (though he was friends with most of them & worked with Morris) but of course there's a wonderful collection of his in Birmingham (and he did the stained glass in the cathedral) I recommend the Grail tapestries.
Modern neo-pagan stuff though - yuk! It always seems more about pleasing the whims of young teenage girls (actually that's probably the point).
However, can I take a rare opportunity to recommend Höppener (aka Fidus - meaning "Faithful". He's not very trendy to like know due to working mainly between the 1st & 2nd world war and being a German who specialised in Germanic Mysticism themes. It should be said that the Nazis hated him - but everybody nowadays seems he was one himself (he wasn't - if anything he was a burnt out heathen hippy ...)